Concepts of God: universe too big for Him? (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by David Turell @, Thursday, November 09, 2017, 20:31 (2331 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Of course God is human oriented. We have part of His universal consciousness through the brain He gave us. Once again, the giant universe is not an argument for atheism.

DAVID: My thought about the universe is that God planned it to evolve and produce the Earth:

https://evolutionnews.org/2017/11/ids-top-six-the-origin-of-the-universe/

dhw: QUOTE: "The famous Kalam cosmological argument is a three-part argument that the universe requires a first cause. Its name reflects its roots in Islamic thought.

The rest of the article is all about proving that God is the first cause. The fact that you believe in God as the first cause does not explain why he needed the big, big universe in order to produce the brain of Homo sapiens (the human-oriented vision of God you share with the Bible). The authors regard this as evidence for atheism. Hence my conclusion: "For you the fallacy in the authors’ reasoning would then be that your God must have had a human-oriented reason for the giant universe, even though you can’t think of one. Alternatively a different type of theist could argue that the giant universe merely indicates that God was NOT human-oriented but had other purposes in mind." Which of these alternatives do you regard as true?

I've given you the answer. God evolved the giant universe to create the one life-supporting Earth that would eventually allow the evolution of the brain. I've never met an alternative theist in your second suggestion except your agnostic supposed theistic thinking.


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