Cosmology: Inflation theory under attack part 3 (Introduction)

by David Turell , Friday, October 27, 2017, 14:53 (2375 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: So you agree He is always in full control (if He wants). Fine.

dhw: What am I “agreeing” with? You are the one who can’t make up his mind if God is in full control or not! 22 October, you replied to reblak: “I’ve admitted that God may have limits.” Now it's "fine" that he's in full control. My theistic hypothesis is that if he exists, he SACRIFICES control but can always resume control (dabble) if he wants to. And you reject my hypothesis!

Limits and control are two different aspects of God. Of course He may have to use one method rather than another if limited in creation technique, but if He watches and steps in to dabble for course correction, He is in FULL control.

DAVID: What you have left out is everyone gets to eat as a result.

dhw: What you have left out is that everyone does NOT get to eat as a result, because 99% of species go extinct. The balance constantly changes in a manner that even you cannot link to the production of H. sapiens’ brain.

The link is enough energy to allow for enough time for evolutionary process to reach the complexity of the human brain. Without eating it doesn't survive to get there.

DAVID: All I left out was that the Cambrian had an abrupt start, but, oh, you seem to have forgotten that. Then there was lots of evolution of the original forms.

dhw: It’s difficult for me to remember something you left out. Of course the original forms evolved. I thought your argument was that the “abrupt start” was the result of your God dabbling to create instant species, as the original forms do not appear to have had any precedents. Hence Darwin’s big problem. So do you think the “original forms” were instant creations or not?

Yes.

DAVID: I shrewdly said only research will tell us. As for the H sapiens brain, it obviously was a major goal. Can you think of others in your theistic mode?

dhw: It’s good to see the gradual evolution of your concept from the H sapiens brain being the ONLY goal to its being the PRIMARY goal to its being A MAJOR goal. I agree that it is A MAJOR advance in evolution, and if God exists, I might even accept that after 3.X billion years he may have done a dabble. I have enormous difficulty in accepting that this major advance in evolution was THE or even the PRIMARY reason for the whole higgledy-piggledy bush of life on Earth. Can I think of another major goal? Yes indeed: the whole higgledy-piggledy bush of life on Earth, which provides an ever-changing spectacle and indeed a continuous source of wonderment. And before you make your complaint about “humanization”, remember that your hypothesis concerning the purpose of the brain was your God wanting a relationship with us and wanting us to think about him, which is just about as human as one can make him.

We must admit that since we share consciousness with Him, or as a part of Him, we have similarities in personality. He just isn't us.