Reasons why ID must be considered (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 01:36 (2445 days ago) @ dhw


DAVID: You are totally skipping the issue that the universe is inorganic, as far as we know, accept for this planet. Where does 'individual' purpose come from except for here where life has appeared? Are you hoping for inorganic purpose? On the other hand non-locality and the obvious interconnectedness of the universe suggests an existing quantum/consciousness underpinning the universe as its cause and director.

dhw: I devoted a whole section of my post to the problem of how inorganic matter could turn into organic cells, and stated categorically that nobody knows. Of course individual purpose is only known to us through living beings. The concept of rudimentary consciousness evolving in materials is purely hypothetical, as is the concept of a single conscious mind causing and directing the universe. However, you and I have already discussed these hypotheses at great length, and I was only repeating the panpsychist proposal as a response to reblak’s post, as it would be interesting to get a response from an atheistic standpoint.

Fair enough. I look forward to his response.


Complete thread:

 RSS Feed of thread

powered by my little forum