Purpose and design (Evolution)

by dhw, Monday, April 24, 2017, 14:58 (235 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

Tony: The weaver bird is part of the food cycle by spreading seed through its dietary habits. That is why it is there. It's nest is likely for ITS benefit, not ours. After all, most weaver birds do not live in the U.S. They live in areas where there are far more predators, poisonous snakes, and other deadly threats that they must protect against. This is why I do not view EVERYTHING as a route to humanity. Some things are done strictly for the benefit of the creature in question. However, just because the bird's nest is not strictly for humanity's sake, the bird itself DOES fill a vital role in keeping the earth alive, and thus, giving the bird a means to stay alive does fall into the larger category of benefiting humanity specifically and all life in general.
DAVID: Thank you. dhw for some reason cannot see this.

All organisms fulfil a role in “keeping the earth alive” until they disappear, and then the surviving organisms keep the earth alive. All organisms therefore benefit all other organisms, including humans. This does NOT mean that your God personally designed the weaverbird’s nest – Tony’s post leaves it open as to whether the bird did this by itself – and benefiting all life in general includes benefiting humans, but does NOT mean that all life forms, lifestyles and natural wonders, extant and extinct, were specially designed by your God to provide food solely for the benefit of humans, or to keep life going until – according to you – he designed the only thing he wanted to design (humans). For some reason you cannot see this.

I know you are desperate for support from Tony, but: “Humans, as the prime goal of all creation, or even of evolution, is truly just silliness, even according to science which claims everything is still evolving” (Balance Maintained, 1 April under “God and evolution”). Thank you, Tony. David for some reason cannot see this.


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