Wikileaks and Extraterrestrials (General)

by BBella @, Friday, October 14, 2016, 05:53 (227 days ago) @ dhw

BBella’s quote from the Pope: “He created beings and allowed them to develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one, so that they were able to develop and to arrive at their fullness of being. He gave autonomy to the beings of the universe at the same time at which he assured them of his continuous presence, giving being to every reality. And so creation continued for centuries and centuries, millennia and millennia, until it became which we know today, precisely because God is not a demiurge or a magician, but the creator who gives being to all things.”

BBella: Sounds very similar to what we are currently discussing with morphic fields. Very full and interesting quote.

Dhw: Yes, he lays emphasis on the individuality of beings, which ties in with my own emphasis on individual morphic fields. But there is an odd switch from creating beings to giving being to all things. Two very different concepts. Beings suggest living things, but all things includes non-life. Is he dabbling with panpsychism, or just being waffly?

I think the last of his sentence answers your question: the creator gave being to all things. All things are being. The word "being" could be interchanged with existing. So the pope is saying that existence was given to all things - according to the internal laws that he gave to each one. These internal laws could be the morphic fields of each thing that exists. Matter and energy make up the "fullness" of all that exists, but it is only by the existence of the memory of the morphic field (internal laws) that allows what IS to be what they ARE. If the morphic fields did not exist within space, the universe would be nothing more than tiny scattered molecules of matter - if that.

Dhw: Delighted to see, though, that he reckons God gave autonomy to the beings of the universe, and let them develop individually. Nothing about preprogramming or dabbling there. (NB You can’t have autonomy if you are preprogrammed.)

Maybe not preprogramming, but he does seem to be saying that internal laws, or what may be the morphic fields, were given in the beginning as guidelines of existence, and then autonomy.

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