The biochemistry of cell communication (Introduction)

by David Turell , Friday, September 02, 2016, 23:11 (2789 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: The scientists who believe in cellular intelligence believe that cell communities have the same proprioceptive (yeah, had to look that one up!) knowledge-Can you give me a reference that tells us cells have proprioceptive sense.-> DAVID: Easy. There is a variability in individual immunity. Those with some immunity survive and produce young with more immunity, just as some bacteria develop a population of immune individuals by the same method. Not all bacterial immunity is lateral transfer.
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> dhw: Obviously there is variability, since some organisms die. The question is how this immunity comes about when there is a new threat. ....I also asked if you thought your God had programmed the immunity or personally dabbled to save the Tasmanian devil. If not, please explain how you think some organisms acquire their immunity to new threats.-Please see my above statement again. There is no reason to deny the possibility that some devils had a partial natural immunity to the cancer from the beginning. In that case they would not need God. The other possibility is epigenetic changes to DNA over four generations. again god not needed for direct intervention.-> DAVID: Thank you. Shapiro's main contribution is that organisms can reorganize their DNA. I agree with that point.
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> dhw: Why “main” contribution? If he thinks they are able to do this consciously (not to be confused with human self-awareness), it is a mighty step forward in our understanding of how evolution works: “…intelligence is not only found in the heads of humans, but also in the roots and leaves of trees, and the movements of microorganisms, and even the inner workings or the most basic units of life.” You could hardly have a clearer statement.-You keep forgetting the 'intelligence' could be automatically controlled by implanted instructional information.