Before the Big Bang? Supersymmetry dead so far (Origins)

by dhw, Sunday, August 28, 2016, 16:18 (2796 days ago) @ David Turell

David's comment: Once more to pound the point home. Higgs completes a pattern segment. Some think it is incomplete….
dhw: Some say it's complete, and some say it's incomplete, as I have shown by referring to a couple of specialist websites that say so explicitly and explain why. NO point, then, in pounding home the point that it is complete! Beautifully confirmed by your conclusion:-DAVID: We really don't know what we don't know.
dhw:Who could possibly disagree?-DAVID: I still disagree with your conclusion about finding Higgs. That was the end of an organized pattern of particles, which predicted the Higgs.-You did say above that it completes a pattern segment. I'll settle for that. The discovery of the Higgs completes the segment that predicted the discovery of the Higgs. But that does not mean that the Standard Model is complete, let alone that the segment must have been “organized” by your God.-DAVID: To repeat, we have no idea but several theories about what will be found next. But it must be a whole new set of somewhat unrelated particles which is why not finding supersymmetry is so important. At this juncture negative results don't help point the next path.-No disagreement here. It may even be that the Standard Model pattern has to be completely written, and the segment culminating in the Higgs will take on a completely new shape. Some of us might say that patterns are only complete when they are complete.


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