Before the Big Bang? (Origins)

by dhw, Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 12:39 (2803 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: ... the arrangement of the known particles and their relationship with quantum mechanics, which can be influenced by the human mind, strongly suggests there is a mind behind all of it.-BBella: Maybe the "arrangement of the known particles and their relationship with quantum mechanics, which can be influenced by the human mind," strongly (merely?) suggests the quantum state or fabric of the universe can be influenced by conscious mind, and there is no "mind behind all of it." No great OZ behind the curtain. 
Simply: mind/consciousness did not create the fabric - mind uses it to create.-DAVID (not dhw, wrongly attributed in David's last post): Whose mind? Ours? I can't accept that. The pattern of the particles suggests a planned construction pattern. Only a mind can create such an integrated quantum plan.-BBella: What pattern of the particles? -DAVID: The discovered particles fit a design described by the 'standard model' which by its understood formation helped predict the existence of the Higgs Boson. Nothing else is really predicted which is why the 'bump' seen last year created so much excitement, but turned out to be a statistical error. There is the theory of supersymmetry but no particle in that category have been discovered as yet, if they exist. The particle zoo is made of bosons, fermions, hadrons, quarks, leptons, etc. following quantum rules:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_zoo
No one knows why the particles are the way they are, but their organization makes perfect sense so far.-I don't see how your list of particles can be said to make a pattern, and even your own comment shows that there is no such thing. An “integrated quantum plan” would require a theory of everything. The above article refers us to another article on the ‘standard model', and the section entitled “Challenges” shows precisely why at present there is no pattern that “makes perfect sense”.