Before the Big Bang? (Origins)

by dhw, Sunday, August 14, 2016, 11:11 (2804 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw; In any case I don't see how current theory about the course of events AFTER the BB can help us understand what happened BEFORE the BB.-David has alerted us to the website below. I have selected some quotes from his own selection of quotes to show just how far the experts are from any kind of consensus. How can there possibly be consensus on events we can never witness, let alone prove to have happened? But it's fun to theorize - and I guess some folk earn a good living doing so.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/did-the-universe-boot-up-with-a-big-bounce/?W... -“'I'm not happy that they do not admit that all their earlier papers should be disregarded,” says Stanford University physicist Renata Kallosh, who calculated errors in previously proposed bounce models. “They now make a new claim, and this new claim I don't believe.” Alan Guth, a pioneer of inflation based at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, agrees.-My personal favourite: “What is truly in store for the future is a very open question—about as open, in fact, as the issue of how it all got started.” -"Kallosh and others object to using quantum cosmology to describe a bounce, because the universe may not have been microscopically small at such a stage.” -“Turok and other critics of inflation have their own problems with the dominant theory.”-"Furthermore, “inflation leads to this nightmare scenario of a multiverse,” Turok says, “which for some strange reason is surprisingly popular.” -“People hold very strong opinions,” Turok says. “I freely admit I do and I freely admit my opinions aren't shared by 95 percent of cosmologists. I'm actually critical of all these theories, including the ones I invented.” -“The observations are pointing at simplicity and it's our job to come up with a simple theory that will hopefully explain those.'” -David's comment: Note the theory does not tell us 'how it all started'; back to 'why is there anything'.-Precisely. And we shall never know ‘how it all started', because even if there was a BB, there is no way of knowing what happened BEFORE the BB. Here's a simple theory: the universe never had a beginning. There has been interaction between infinite energy and matter for ever and ever. The observable section of the universe is a mere blob in eternity and infinity. Now prove that theory wrong.