The immensity of the universe (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by David Turell , Wednesday, January 20, 2016, 14:54 (3012 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: However, I was actually talking here about supernovas: the billions that must have come and gone throughout eternity, apparently as part of God's plan to produce humans. You wrote: “It worked at least once.” That means it didn't work billions of times.-You misunderstood my comment: To create humans requires the explosion of millions/billions (?) of supernovas to create the critical elements in space for life that could then arrive at Earth to start life and finally humans. Humans are here, at least once!
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> DAVID: As for supernovas, they are built into the cosmic system and maybe God has plans for more sentient species in this vast universe that will eventually communicate with us. 
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> dhw: Or maybe all these supernovas and solar systems are just appearing and disappearing with nothing controlling them and with no purpose. -It is easy to recognize purpose if you don't accept chance.-> 
> dhw: All life is amazing. We agree that its complexities are such that chance seems unlikely. ....Back to first cause: energy and matter, with consciousness always present (unlikely-seeming God) or evolving through a lucky combination of energy and matter (unlikely-seeming chance). Two unlikely-seeming hypotheses. Good reason to keep an open mind.-To repeat: Chance or design equals purposeless chance or eternal consciousness. Only one is logical. Do you have a third choice?