A new synthesis: Four dimensions of Evolution (Evolution)

by dhw, Wednesday, December 16, 2015, 21:56 (3047 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Do you understand the concept of delayed choice experiments?-dhw: I understand that nobody understands why particles behave the way they do, and observation appears to dictate their behaviour. How does that invalidate the fact that matter and energy have been proved over and over again to behave in an utterly predictable manner whether we observe them or not? I am not denying the importance of consciousness, but I am simply pointing out that quantum experiments do not make the quantum world any more real than the world we experience in our everyday lives, regardless of the subjectivity of our perception.-DAVID: In delayed choice, conscious changes in the outcome change the observations in the beginning. Choice changes the state of the initial quanta. That is as real as anything else, even if there is not a rational explanation except consciousness. And it is why many quantum scientists think consciousness is the basis of the universe. Do you have a problem with that? Matter and energy work under these rules all the time at macro levels while at the micro levels the particles are playing their game producing the macro level.-Thank you for this explanation. Perhaps you would also explain why some scientists do not think that consciousness is the basis of the universe.