Evolution v Creationism: guided evolution? dhw? (Evolution)

by David Turell , Monday, April 20, 2015, 22:36 (3290 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: I have never skipped your conclusion, and have repeatedly pointed out that this anthropocentric view of evolution is what blinds you to the higgledy-piggledy comings and goings.-But you do skip. Mine is a coherent theory where every part fits my concept.-> dhw: Wearing my theist cap, I have conceded the possibility of divine dabbling, but that would indicate things going wrong, changes of plan, or improvisation, which you can't tolerate because of your fixed ideas about God's infallibility.-I don't know that God is infallible. My concept of 'dabbling' is since there is some degree of epigenetic responsiveness to stress, He may have to step in to keep things on course.-> dhw: Your alternative is the preprogramming of every single innovation, allowing for every single change in the environment - a scenario you gloss over with “guidance”.-Of course He guides. -> dhw: “Balance of nature” is another gloss. We all acknowledge its necessity and its constant changes, but it doesn't support the argument that the zillions of species extinct and extant were necessary for the production of humans.-Remember, I've accepted the idea that God used evolution to produce humans. The observation of balance makes perfect sense. Why the 'balance' had to be so broad has never been clear to me, but it is what we observe, and therefore I conclude it must be necessary It is also why I think 'dabbling' is necessary, to keep evolution on its desired track to humans. As you see, all of my theory fits its parts.-> 
> dhw: I am aware of the über-complexity, and I don't know how single cells developed the intelligence etc. Nobody knows. How did primal energy acquire its intelligence and its knowledge of how to create universes and life? Nobody knows. But mumble “first cause” and you think the unanswerable question can simply be ignored.-I'm not ignoring the problem. I believe there is God. You don't like the answer.