Evolution v Creationism: guided evolution? dhw? (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, April 03, 2015, 15:23 (3304 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: 40% of doctors are believers!->> dhw: So what does that tell you about the other 60%? I am greatly in your debt for generously alerting me to the work of renowned experts who disagree with you. -Thank you. I try to present a variety of opinions since much of scientific conclusions are really opinions until fully verified.-> dhw:The concept of cooperation between intelligent cells is not my invention, but it seems to me to offer an alternative at least as credible as your divine preprogramming and dabbling. I have made it clear, however, that I remain uncommitted with regard to the source of an IM. I wrote that such an act of chance “I find as difficult to believe as eternal, infinite energy being a single conscious mind. That is one reason why I am an agnostic.” And you responded: “Fully understood.”-I still fully understand that you cannot accept the concept.-> dhw: If you understand it, why do you persist in telling me I reject theories which I neither accept nor reject, and why do you not understand that ALL the alternatives entail acts of irrational faith if one is to pass from neutrality to commitment?-We have reached the nub of the issue: is there any faith you would find as rational? Or must everything be clearly black or white, and provable?. You started this website as a answer to what you perceived as irrational atheism. And I have tried to show how I left agnosticism through what I feel are rational conclusions, as a means of offering an educational contribution to a line of reasoning. I come from the position that living cells are highly complex, beyond what chance can produce, and yet are relatively mindless. Mind is required for complexity planning, and the cells can only use epigenetic automatic response mechanisms to various stimuli and stresses. Mind and information are absolute requirements for life to exist. And therefore there must be a mind with information behind it all. Simple, no Bible needed.