Different in degree or kind: EVOLUTION (Introduction)

by dhw, Sunday, January 11, 2015, 20:44 (3395 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: Nobody can give a source, but it might be your God. He might have created an intelligent mechanism with all the information necessary for evolution.-DAVID: We are again back at the key point, information. Life runs on information, without question. It is my point that DNA cannot have invented the information by itself. Information which plans and runs the complexity of the universe and live must come from intellect, or blossoms by chance. For the source I say God. Do you have an alternative? -You have cut out the alternative which followed the quote: “...Or he might have specially created the duck-billed platypus. Or there might be some strange way in which matter generated its own intelligence, with the same result.” You seem to have decided to abandon the “key point” which forms the subject of this thread, but perhaps you feel you are on safer ground with your old friends information, and chance v. design.-dhw: I'm surprised you feel able to accept the argument that life was almost a mathematical inevitability resulting from a Darwinian evolutionary law of physics. No source or organizer here. Or does Wagner go on to say God did it?-DAVID: No Wagner doesn't say God did it. And you are inferring more from the paragraph than I do. The point I accept is that Life was inevitable because the information required was supplied. Once the concept is accepted that information is required for life to exist then it follows that I can live with the way the paragraph is stated. What I look for is the fact that a non-theist admits the requirement for initial information.-Of course he doesn't say God did it. And I have never said initial information was not required. Nor have I ever said that God did not provide it (or did provide it - I'm an agnostic!). Nobody knows where it came from. That is the great mystery which you think you have solved through conjuring up another great mystery: an infinite and eternal mind from nowhere.