An inventive mechanism (Evolution)

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Thursday, September 11, 2014, 20:19 (3506 days ago) @ David Turell
edited by Balance_Maintained, Thursday, September 11, 2014, 20:36

Tony: Unlike the Djinn, God didn't twitch his nose and make things poof into existence. Things had to be prepared at each and ever step, and he used life to do that. Sometimes it was the simple machines (single-celled organisms), at others it was more complex life. Regardless, each necessary step was planned and implemented in such a way that it achieved the desired results, whether those results were terraforming the land, altering the atmosphere, or filling a niche in the ecosystem that needed to be filled in order to maintain homeostasis.
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>David: Recognizing that Tony and I come from very different religious childhoods, and therefore biases, I think Tony's reasoning makes the bible inconsisent. If the Bible's God is as all-powerful and all-knowing as implied, why did He have to do so much planning? ...if the plan were perfect as the Bible would imply, and not requiring dabbling, or did it have imperfections?-Firstly, I am not sure how my reasoning makes the bible inconsistent. If you would care to point that out to me, I could probably clarify. As to why he had to do so much planning, I have a counter question. From a biblical standpoint, God created his son directly, and then all other things were created according to God's will/design BY his Son, and to make it all happen they employed "myriads upon myriads" of angels(spirit creatures). My question is this, if you were a infinitely wise, all powerful, all knowing god, would you twitch your nose and produce this vast universe and all its life in the blink of an eye?-To me, that is not only a tremendous undertaking, but it would be monumentally foolish as everything would die the instant it was created. Science tells us that in the first seconds after the big bang, the universe was excruciatingly hot. It tells us that the early earth was toxic to all life. Why did god have to plan it all out? Because he created the laws of physics that govern all matter, the laws which allow all of this to work. If he then created all of us with a twitch of his nose, those laws say that tremendous amounts of heat would see us still born everything destroyed. That doesn't sound wise. He may not have to operate within the laws of physics, but whatever is created within the universe does, not just when the nose twitches but in the first few seconds after and for the rest of its days.-Why did he have to plan so much for the variation in life? He didn't. He could have gotten away with leaving the world with nothing but squishy little single celled organisms on it, or no life at all, for that matter. If you want life, though. If you want animal life, human life, plant life, on a planet in the goldilocks zone with sweet waters and sweater air that can maintain itself for billions of years and maintain the lives of the creatures living upon it, then you have to plan out the systems to make sure they are correct.-As for the imperfection, no. Unless of course you count free will as an imperfection.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.