Cell Memories (Identity)

by David Turell , Thursday, July 24, 2014, 19:44 (3554 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: How automatic is “rather” automatically? And if it comes to that, what do you mean by information “running” biology?-Same argument. I've covered this in the previous post. The genome code contains systematic automatic controls which runs the cells. No direct intelligence in the cell, all indirect in the genome.->dhw: You are not just “willing to accept” automatism - you insist on it and actively oppose the idea of cellular intelligence. It is this dogmatic rejection that I find so surprising.-The cellular intelligence I recognize is at a different level that what you propose. the genome contriols the cell under tight feedback loops.
 
> dhw: So are you arguing that every manifestation of intelligence by humans and our fellow animals is the result of “information in the genome running the show”? Of course you aren't ..... That to me is tantamount to saying that your God has given cells and cell communities the intelligence to work out their own life plan. Once again, then, they are not automata. Either the life plan has been preprogrammed or the cell community works it out. You can't have it both ways.-I'm not having it both ways. But it is what you are advocating. You must understand the different levels at which the cellular intelligence operates. The cell senses chemically what is required and refers to the genome to find an answer.- 
> dhw: Enough to convince me. I am convinced that once there were dinosaurs, that our government's support for nuclear energy will lead to incalculable disaster, and that all forms of life have descended from earlier forms. I have no “absolute proof”, but I am able to believe. Neither the case for Chance nor the case for a God convinces me, which must seem as incomprehensible to Dawkins as to you.-I still interpret this as a requirement for absolute proof. The picket fence!