Light and Matter (Origins)

by GateKeeper , Wednesday, May 28, 2014, 12:35 (3619 days ago) @ David Turell

no, please, never a "my Fault" with me. You guys are very respectful and reasonable. And I understand my limits. And you were not that far off.
 
Back to topic. That's quantum mechanics. Space itself may be quantized (quanta) but they are not sure yet. they do think it is "something". They did the gyro scope experiment to show it. It is amazing how "small' they can see.
the story is ever changing. -Guth's only came up with because of the uniformity of the "mixture". It kind of makes sense to me because something had to repel everything before it collapsed back into "nothing". If the "bang story" is the story that is. So space itself expanded faster than light. But that stuff is out of my league.-When the weal force separated, that being very strong at really small distances fell out inflation started. the temp was between 10^15 and 10^ 27 I think for the forces to "fall" out and quarks to start forming elements. This happen in 10^-27 to 10^-6 second. But this is based on gravity being part of the energy in the initial moments. If gravity if indeed from from "outside" then the temps and story line would be a little different. But I am no expert.-But like you said, that is not set in stone. It can change today. They just can't test any of this yet. It is one mathematically reasonable story. There are a few out there. And we could talk about less mathematical stories, but need to be real careful there. -We should be careful when we talk about "matter". it is not a thing, it is a series of events. It is ok to talk about it as "something you can hold in your hand" but it is an event. That is an important distinction when you are talking about it in the detail you guys are trying to I think. Even the quarks inside the atom are moving close to the speed of light and exchanging gluons at enormous rates. Just think about the photon density in the room you are in right now. way cool.
 
I see the problem of "unification" lying in "time". There is no time. Only state changes that we call time. So they added a dimension that may not even exist. But it graphs nice and works very well. -!!!! I am not no expert though!!!!- wow. I have to say, I have been in an atheists forum. If I posted this (even part of it) they all mock the heck out of me. Call me a fool. They don't even know what they don't know, but they have all the answers