Ourcellves? (Identity)

by romansh , Wednesday, April 09, 2014, 04:16 (3669 days ago) @ GateKeeper

Romansh: "The ability to act or to make choices independently of the environment or of the universe."
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> dhw: "An entity's conscious ability to control the decision-making process within given constraints."
> Gate's:
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> for gate: An entity's conscious ability to control the decision-making process within given constraints. These constraints are Universe. 
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> There is no "independent from", there is only "within constraints". so I am not sure if I understand rom's notion.-The problem with throwing in consciousness into the defintion we end up debating whether consciousness exists, is it simply an after-the-fact phenomenon or does it actually control stuff. The latter is a classical dualist position.-Rather than discussing whether cause and effect is true or not. -What does rom mean?-> There is no "independent from"
sums it up pretty nicely.-With or without Within constraints I'm not sure it clarifies anything for me.