Language and Logic (General)

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Wednesday, April 02, 2014, 04:51 (3675 days ago) @ romansh

Romansh: But I take what you say dhw to heart. I suspect we ultimately speak/think in metaphors. 
> -Which is what makes them such powerful teaching tools. :)-> Take the sun being responsible for hurricanes ... I don't think anyone would seriously doubt that or be against such a concept (except for the likes of Pat Robertson). Now obviously there are contributing factors ... eg rotation of the Earth atmospheric composition etc. 
> -Again you twist the word here. Responsible..responsibility.. response ability.. having the ability or obligation to respond .. also:-

• liable to be called on to answer

• able to answer for one's conduct and obligations

• having the job or duty of dealing with or taking care of something or someone

• able to be trusted to do what is right or to do the things that are expected or required

• involving important duties, decisions, etc., that you are trusted to do


-So my question for you is, which of these criteria is fulfilled by the sun? Note that every single definition requires the intelligent ability to respond.-> Romansh: We can see responsibility of people in a similar light if we so choose. We can see responsibility in a more magical sense, that takes on a moral aspect. That a person is responsible for their actions that are somehow independent of their environment.
> -Why does moral have to be put on the same playing field as magical? A person IS responsible for their actions. They have the ability to respond, and accountability for the manner in which they choose to respond. While I certainly agree that perceptions and experience will help inform that response, it is possible to override that conditioning with intent.-
>Romansh: To summarize - a lack of understanding twists logic every bit as much as words do.-And personal bias or predisposition towards a certain result twists it even further.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.