Harris and Dennett on free will (Introduction)

by romansh , Monday, March 10, 2014, 02:26 (3705 days ago) @ David Turell

Again fair enough for you, but what Harris and Dennett are struggling with has no current answers, like the number of angels. 
I don't think Dennett and Harris are struggling with anything. Like you they have found their 'truth'.-> So as with atheism and theism you have to choose sides, or as you and dhw are doing is staying astride the fence and studying in both directions very carefully. 
There is a definition game at play here ... many agnostics are atheist by the weak atheist definition (I don't hold a belief in god).-Regarding the fence metaphor, I would argue it should be it is the theists/deists and strong atheists who are up on their respective fences. Agnostics are sifting through the dirt for evidence.-> And I admire that, though remember I was there also and studied, and made choices. We are all at an illusion and opinion level, but I was moral, and followed a properly useful and ethical life, which has had meaning for me, without settling this issue to the point of absolute truth. 
I was moral too, but I am now striving against all odds to be amoral.-Regarding scientism ... sadly I don't buy the criticisms. The criticisms are generally poor. And too often science and scientism gets confounded. Scientism becomes a pejorative.