The Paranormal (Where is it now?)

by David Turell , Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 15:41 (5579 days ago) @ George Jelliss

You and DT keep claiming that, but you don't actually come up with solid examples. None of those I have ever read about has been at all convincing, and can be easily explained.
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I have repeated on several occasions about the licensed physician, working in a hospice, on the radio in Houston, describing a patient who had an NDE and found out through it someone they knew had died and it was true. There was no way, considering the near terminal condition of the patient, that patient could have known except thru the NDE. He said it happened several times. My Chapter Six is filled with examples. Kubler-Ross and Raymond Moody, both physicians, published in the 1970's reawakening interest in a phenomenon known since ancient times. I am not enough of a typist to copy out a 51 page chapter. Get the book and see the references. I'll send one just for the postage. Or google IANDS or PMH Atwater, with whom I have spoken. Google Dr. Michael Sabom, a skeptical cardiologist whom Moody challenged. Sabom was convinced. See his books. See Kenneth Ring, "Mindsight: Near-Death and Out-of-the-Body Experiences in the Blind", 1999. The literature is out there; please look for it. - As with Blackmore, blind of acceptence of skepticism is no way to reason out possibilities. Research the literature as I have. I'm not sure I know exactly what is happenening, but the NDE episodes are too consistent in the descriptions by the patients. They are not hallucinations. They are too consistent and organized. After 40 years in medicine I know one when I see it. - Also recognize that OOB and NDE are different, each strange in its own way. OOB can be corroborated by third party in the description of what was going on around the patient durng the episode. In the Pim van Lommel article in Lancet, the patient 'knew' what happened to his dentures even though his EEG was flat (no cerebral function, eyes closed)